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eighteen wrote on Sep 28, 2008 12:17 AM:

" JJ, you're wrong. I have lived in Fruitland my whole life and most of the football team has gone through school with me since kindergarten. I also know and admire a bunch of the Ontario players. We used to play them in middle school sports and got to know each other pretty well. This blog is not about us. It's about a bunch of troublemaker idiots who want to see their words in print and get a rush from saying things that are sure to get a reaction. And, by the way, this article was about Ontario vs VALE, NOT FRUITLAND! "

Wake Up wrote on Sep 25, 2008 3:37 PM:

" For the most part the kids from Ontario and Fruitland get along great!I have High School kids and I hear a lot of mutual respect both ways. It is the crazy adults who are very messed up along with a few punk kids! "

Re JJ wrote on Sep 24, 2008 3:31 PM:

" You are one crazy son-of-a-gun...Give us some facts to back your talk. "

Anthony wrote on Sep 24, 2008 11:23 AM:

" Kathy, don't you have an Obama rally to go to? "

JJ wrote on Sep 23, 2008 12:52 PM:

" Half of the Fruitland players are Ontario transplants anyway. How do you think they have been able to compete in there sports programs? Sucking Tiger talent out of town. "

Kathy wrote on Sep 23, 2008 10:37 AM:

" Wow, I sure wish all this school bashing would quit. As adults, I am upset at the example being set for these kids. Do you think they don't read this crap and feed off of it. They go out every week and bust their butts to win a game, these games are so important to them- please stop demeaning their efforts at every turn. Think about what is really important in your life and how you would feel if it was being publicly ridiculed all the time. Now tell me why teens have a high depression rate. Encouragement goes a long way. "

Update on Ol 1 wrote on Sep 19, 2008 5:14 PM:

" Loren is going to Southern Oregon University in Ashland. Southern is a fine school, with a long-standing tradition as a teaching school of high caliber. He wants to play football, but is not going to until next year. He is gray-shirting, which means that he cannot practice with the team, nor can he play. He is involved in learning the system so he will be able to play next year.

He was kicking around UCLA, USC and others, but of course he was full of hot air.

The SOU football program has been getting better over the last 10 years, and is considered a quality NAIA program. It's not really a jump-off school to the pros, but people don't go to SOU to play football, but to get a really great education. Hopefully, he will get his head put on straight, pay attention to positive influences around him and make something of his life. "

Im glad wrote on Sep 19, 2008 10:06 AM:

" Everybody could see his true color's. Where did he end up going, with all that talent? It seems that know one is for sure. I think he was throwing around some pretty big names..Will they have to put a tutor with him to learn the plays? "

Response to Trying wrote on Sep 18, 2008 10:32 PM:

" Excellent points about both programs. We, as sports fan, tend to get more involved in the teams we support than in the more important social issues of our community. I am sure there are more people who discuss the merits of both teams than who give realistic suggestions for bringing up our economy.

I do beg to differ about 1 point, though. That point is good ole' Number 1 from last year. The FHS fan called him a whiner and a faker when he took a hit. He was. He had a bad attitude toward his teammates and a much worse attitude in class toward teachers and other students. He was a jerk in and out of the classroom. In the shrine game he showed his colors with disrespectful behavior and comments. It's a shame he was so talented and useful on the football field.

I wish good luck to both teams this year, but better luck to Ontario. :) "

To Trying to figure out... wrote on Sep 18, 2008 4:31 PM:

" You are trying to figure out the logic of "the attack." Here is the first post on this site, in response to a story on the Ontario-Vale game:

Jim wrote on Sep 15, 2008 9:39 AM:
" Too bad Fruitland doesn't have half of the class that ontario and vale have. "

THAT is how this negative, mean-spirited, non-productive thread got started. THAT is "the attack." "

Trying to figure out the logic of the attack wrote on Sep 18, 2008 1:15 PM:

" In 2001 Ontario played in the OREGON state Semis. 2002 they were in the championship game. 2003 2nd round state playoffs. 2004, quarter-finals. 2005, 1-8. 2006, semifinals. 2007, semi-finals. I give you they were not good for a year. What pray are the years that FHS fan is talking about? Oh, by the way, there was more than one win over Fruitland in that time period. And there are nearly 3 times as many schools in Ontario's division in Oregon than there are in Idaho's 3A. So, those playoff runs are impressive. I also remember Fruitland getting blown out by New Plymouth in either 98 or 99. So even the mighty Griz have down years. The last time the Fruitland and Ontario teams played it was a blowout. It was also the 2nd game of the season for a team coming off of a 1-8 year the year before. It was a very young team just learning how to play and win together. That team came together and advanced to the state semis. That loss to Fruitland HELPED that team achieve what they achieved. Sometimes losses can be good for a program. There never were excuses given for that loss. The Tigers got beat. There probably wasn't nearly that much difference between the talent levels of the two teams. One was established. The other was emerging. If responsibility had been taken for the robbery, I'm sure the series would have continued. The problem is an administrative conflict that has nothing to do with the players or the coaches of the two programs. Both teams have a hard time finding opponents. It would be nice if they could be a regular on the schedule every year. I just don't see it happening while the current people are in their respective positions. So, why do some of you feel like you have to run down good kids who work hard and play hard on both sides of the river just because you can't have your way? "

EX FHS FAN wrote on Sep 18, 2008 12:51 PM:

" Half of the coaches in Vale wont even deal with the AD in Fruitland. Same with Ontario. And I can only assume the same of Nyssa since they wont ever play FHS. "

To FHS Fan wrote on Sep 18, 2008 12:34 PM:

" Haha a "FHS Fan" bringing up transfer students, what a joke. "

Good thing the rest of the STATE stinks too wrote on Sep 17, 2008 11:00 PM:

" FHS fan wrote that Ontario has not been good for years and the only thing going for it was the dumb-A$$ Loren Stewart. Well, you pegged him. He was/is a cry baby. He had a bad attitue and I wish he had never put on the Cardinal and Corn. But, he had talent and the Tigers used him.

But to say that he was the only positive is going a bit far. It was his stupid arrogance and ball-hoggishness that cost Ontario the state playoff game. The Offensive line was prepared for one play, while the QB and Stewart prepared another. No wonder thiry-seven defenders were able to stop him short.

The Tiger defense last year was truly impressive as was the Offensive line. Let's hope it continues.

Oh, BTW, you can't deny that your administrators SUCK when it comes to inter-school relations (and I don't mean in the good way either). "

Sports Fan wrote on Sep 17, 2008 9:34 PM:

" To "Shut Up"--(a pretty rude comment):
If you had ever met Fruitland's athletic director, you would know what a ridiculous statement you posted. You are WAY off-base. "

To FHS fan wrote on Sep 17, 2008 4:50 PM:

" Saying that all we had was a Payette transfer is as ignorant as saying all you had was a Quarterback whose MOM gave special favors to the players.. Grow UP!!! "

Jason wrote on Sep 17, 2008 10:18 AM:

" Positvie thinking, negative thinking, blah blah blah...fruitland still stinks, end of story. "

FHS fan wrote on Sep 17, 2008 8:25 AM:

" How in the hell did Fruitland come in to this story?? you losers need to get a life. you ontario tigers are a bunch of sore loosers, you can't get over them stomping you 53-13 two years ago. your school hasn't been good for years, the only thing you had going for you last year was a transfer for payette that could run a sweep and that was it. if he got hit at all he would lay on the ground until one of the coaches drug him off. "

Fruitland just shut up wrote on Sep 16, 2008 10:09 PM:

" Hey, "I Think.." here is some projected negativity. Readers like to read good things about their team. The OHS Tigers ARE the home team of those readers. Fruitland is in another state and hasn't seen fit to produce a rag worth wrapping tilapia in that could reproduce the amount of border-crossing brown-nosing that the Argus is capable of. The Fruitland football team is a good team, maybe even a really good team, but I don't care because I am from Ontario. The Tigers have been good the last few years and we are pretty damned happy about it, because we know it can't last forever. We may be homers, but at least we are realists. Go Tigers!!!

Another blogger mentioned how poorly Fruitland treats others, he/she was not referring to the kids, the parents or the fans of the team, but the administrators that are rude to other people, such as the Athletic Director.

Here are some parting words from a great comedian: "Nobody is perfect, but you should all try harder, that way you wouldn't annoy me so much." Lewis Black "

I think.. wrote on Sep 16, 2008 2:38 PM:

" that if you would put half of that negative energy into something positive, you would make it alot easier on yourself. Project negativity and that is what will come back to you in everything.... "

too bad wrote on Sep 16, 2008 1:38 PM:

" Too bad you are so obsessed with Fruitland that you can't even enjoy beating the big rival Vale. Weird??? "

Jake wrote on Sep 16, 2008 8:41 AM:

" Fruitland? Does fruitland have a football team? "

Wow wrote on Sep 15, 2008 3:53 PM:

" What a compliment to Fruitland that no matter who you are playing, and no matter what the outcome, all you can think about is Fruitland! "

EX FHS FAN wrote on Sep 15, 2008 1:18 PM:

" No kidding. Maybe if they worked on relations they would be able to pick up games in the valley instead of treating everybody like crap. "

Jim wrote on Sep 15, 2008 9:39 AM:

" Too bad Fruitland doesn't have half of the class that ontario and vale have. "

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